Curse

Longasc · Jan 08, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

If I am a Necro:

Me as... Necro (SS/Curses):
1. Olias (MM)
2. Jin (Barrage/Splinter/Pet)
3. Margrid (Barrage/Splinter/Pet)

Sometimes Pyre, I like to use him vs Charr.

As a Warrior (Axe most of the time):
1. Master of Whispers (SS/Curses)
2. Olias (MM)
3. Pyre (White Moa + Splinter-Barrage, also great if you use an axe)
or Livia as N/Rt Healer for 4 man areas (OMG, is it a SABWAY?)

In general, Necros are on top of the PvE Food Chain! Quite ironic how bad they are in PvP. They are almost the opposite of Mesmers.

And they already PWNED before Sab brought the light of knowledge to the ignorants of this forum! (lol)

Akaraxle · Jan 08, 2008, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Man Of Ascalon

Whats so great about this?

It yields the biggest effects with the least player skill involved. Like most gimmicks, anyway.

Myself, I play around with heroes a lot depending on how I feel. I may go with the weirdest stuff, like Earth Shaker on Goren or Fevered Dreams on Norgu to spread Cracked Armor from Shell Shock.

upier · Jan 08, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Issues:
1. What I am running. Although lately it's hard to find me on something other then the Warrior, Para or necro. I use others just to open the chests.
2. The fact that I don't have GWEN. Which means only one Para hero.
3. The fact that we can only run 3 heroes. Which means - I am not going to waste slots on stuff that hench do bad enough to be useful.

So my three guys normally are:
1. The General
Mostly Motivation with Defensive Anthem. His build does differ a bit depending what I am playing though.
2. Goren (or his substitute Koosy until I unlock The Big G!)
DS - although the heroes suck with it or a hammer kind of a guy.
3. Masters
Curses for Enfeeble/Shadow/Barbs, Blood (5) for Dark Fury, High SR with SoLS and the rest in Prot (4!) for Divert, Mend, PS. This one is pretty much set in stone for now.

Hench are simple - 2 monkies, the rest warriors/assassins/para.
Depending what is available.

artay · Jan 08, 2008, 08:33 AM // 08:33

Sometimes I use the n/rit healer from sabs build with 2 sf eles sometimes, combining two good things

BLOODGOAT · Jan 08, 2008, 09:44 AM // 09:44

Q Q Less
[skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Healing Touch[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Word of Healing[/skill][skill]Words of Comfort[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Holy Haste[/skill][skill]Restore Life[/skill]
or
[skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Gift of Health[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill]

Zhed Shadowhoof
[skill]Elemental Attunement[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Immolate[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill][skill]Incendiary Bonds[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

(Sometimes replace Death Pact Signet or Aura of Restoration for Meteor Shower)

Master of Whispers
[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Blood of the Master[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Protective Was Kaolai[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

Olias
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Reckless Haste[/skill][skill]Soul Barbs[/skill][skill]Barbs[/skill][skill]Insidious Parasite[/skill][skill]Envenom Enchantments[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

I pretty much only play my Monk but I sometimes play my Elementalist as well. If I do, I replace Zhed Shadowhoof with Dunkoro and fairly easy to run healing build similar to my own, and take care of the AoE spiking myself. Suffice to say when I play Ele, things die faster albeit with a bit more risk, but when I play Monk, my H/H never die.
Lawl

Koning · Jan 08, 2008, 10:05 AM // 10:05

I played the 3x Necro for a few days (try it out etc) but it made me realise how boring a game can be...

So if I'm a physical (most of the time) I run 2x para + order (be it dervish or necro), simply because physicals r ape the game harder.

blurmedia · Jan 08, 2008, 11:40 AM // 11:40

To all of you who use the D/N order thing: Do you have to micro them a lot or can they run it by themselves?

Racthoh · Jan 08, 2008, 11:42 AM // 11:42

Two paragons with either D/N (Healing + OoP + Dark Fury) or N/Rt (OoP + Dark Fury + Splinter Weapon).

Quote:

Originally Posted by blurmedia

To all of you who use the D/N order thing: Do you have to micro them a lot or can they run it by themselves?

Pre-cast the interventions, that's it.

shadows of hob · Jan 08, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47

I vanquish area's with my elementalist and I use:
<: Savannah heat, Searing heat, Teihna's heat, glyph of lesser, rodgorts, fire att, meteor shower, ress
Zhed: Savannah heat, 2 more heats, glyph of lesser, rodgorts, fire att, ward against melee, ress
Veck: The 3 heats, glyph of lesser, rodgorts, fire att, ward of stab, ress
Ogden: Prot spirit, reversal, guardian, Shield of deflection, remove hex, dismiss condition, rebirth and 2 more, depending on the situation, sometimes spirit bond/glyph of lesser/power drain/drain enchantment

onerabbit · Jan 08, 2008, 12:53 PM // 12:53

i ussualy go Sabway or 2 E/Rt sf and 1 Jagged MM

I Is Special · Jan 08, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Man Of Ascalon

Whats so great about this?

Absolutely nothing. It's an SS, an MM, and a N/Rt healer. People say it has great synergy but the only thing is that they get energy because they have soul reaping (The builds dont really have skills that complement eachother and makes them Uber good). There is nothing at all special about the builds or how they act together. People are just over-reacting because they usually dont come up with new builds and its actually a somewhat different trio compared to the 2SF/1 MM hero parties that people used to run.

And yes, i have played with and tested this build for a while (before anyone says that i played an hour with it and then gave my invalid opinion)

Destro Maniak · Jan 08, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

guys is there any way to stop olias being death nova jerk. He really gets so behind of casting death nova on ALL MINIONS!!! OMG

upier · Jan 08, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro Maniak

guys is there any way to stop olias being death nova jerk. He really gets so behind of casting death nova on ALL MINIONS!!! OMG

Manually disable it after each battle and enable it again just a few secs before the next battle starts?

makosi · Jan 08, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro Maniak

guys is there any way to stop olias being death nova jerk. He really gets so behind of casting death nova on ALL MINIONS!!! OMG

Yeah, but once all of those minions get owned in a HM mob, the HM mob suffer dearly for it.

~

I run this on Livia where I know there's a hard boss (e.g. Duncan the Black):

[skill]Spoil Victor[/skill][skill]blood ritual[/skill][skill]Glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]Ward against melee[/skill][skill]ward of stability[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]ward against elements[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

P.S. I like "Sabway". If you want to express discontent at a player trend, join my anti-'q9' crusade.

bhavv · Jan 08, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

People complaining about sabway stfu. Its no less of a gimmick then 2 paras with orders (only really works if your a physical damage player) or SF way.

And it has great synergy beyond soul reaping, mainly that barbs and mark of pain allow your minions to instakill your foes. I need to try throw in splinter wep too, not tested that yet.

Sabway > you.

Witchblade · Jan 08, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

3 Nec or MM+2xSF

blood4blood · Jan 08, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Most common cookie-cutter hero groups I've used:
3 necro heroes (sabway)
MM + 2 SF eles
MM + 2 B/P rangers

Other than those, I tend to change up the heroes and their builds pretty often just to try different things in different areas. I rarely bother saving the builds or remembering the combos though.

EDIT: Yes, I meant Barrage/Pet rangers when I wrote "B/P."

Squishy ftw · Jan 08, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

hmm.. I'll have my own little noob moment here and ask what those B/P rangers are everyone keeps talking about.
I've never used them(I simply don't use ranger hero's..) and can't really recall having seen the build.

makosi · Jan 08, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

hmm.. I'll have my own little noob moment here and ask what those B/P rangers are everyone keeps talking about.
I've never used them(I simply don't use ranger hero's..) and can't really recall having seen the build.

B/P stands for Barrage/Pet. It involves Barrage Rangers with pets, which were formerly used as 'tanks' and minion food.

There was usually an Orders Necro, MM and a healer of some sort.

Mr Emu · Jan 08, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

on my para char i generally run:
Para hero[skill]Cruel Spear[/skill][skill]"Never Surrender!"[/skill][skill]"Go For the Eyes!"[/skill]
Bsurge/Warder hero [skill]Blinding Surge[/skill][skill]shell shock[/skill][skill]ward against melee[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill]
and Rit hero[skill]weapon of remedy[/skill][skill]splinter weapon[/skill][skill]essence strike[/skill][skill]bloodsong[/skill][skill]life[/skill]